Høyre foreslår å knytte kontantstøtte til boplikt for å få slutt på eksportering av kontantstøtte. Forslaget innebærer at ansvaret for kontantstøtten blir overført fra staten til kommunene, som så skal kunne kreve at barnet som utløser kontantstøtten er bosatt i den aktuelle kommunen. – Urettferdig, mener leder av Den polske forening, Krzysztof Orleanski. Hele to tredjedeler av utlendingene som mottar kontantstøtte og sender den videre til familien i hjemlandet er polske.

Krzysztof Orleanski forstår ikke Høyres utspill. Polske arbeidere som betaler skatt til Norge må også ha krav på norske velferdsgoder, sier han.

– Det er urettferdig. Norge trenger polsk arbeidskraft. Vi jobber lovlig og betaler skatt, men får ikke de samme rettighetene som alle andre.
– Et rimelig krav

Linda Hofstad Helleland mener dette ikke er annet enn et rimelig krav fra Høyre.

– Vi kan ikke eksportere kontantstøtten til utlandet. Man kan jo heller ikke ta med seg en barnehageplass ut av landet, sier Hofstad Helleland.

NRK: Vil ha slutt på at polakker sender kontantstøtte ut av landet

I Storbritannia stiller regjeringspartiet De konservative spørsmål ved rimeligheten i at personer i lønnet arbeid må planlegge familieforøkelser etter hva de har råd til, mens personer som lever av velferdsytelser ikke gjør det samme, og foreslår å begrense offentlige stønader til tre barn per familie.

David Cameron is set to announce proposals to penalise jobless families for having more than three children

Jobless families could be penalised for having more than three children under Tory plans for a welfare revolution.

They could also be kicked off the dole after two years in proposals to be outlined today by the Prime Minister.

David Cameron will claim that there is a ‘welfare gap’ in Britain, where those on the dole have a financial incentive to breed while those in work are forced to stop having children because they simply cannot afford to.

He will float the idea that workshy couples could be penalised by having their income support slashed and additional child benefit stopped if they have more than three children.

For å understreke verdien av selvforsørgelse, uttaler statsminister David Cameron at «enkelt sagt har vi oppmmuntret folk i arbeidsfør alder til å få barn og ikke jobbe, når vi skulle ha gjort folk i arbeidsfør alder i stand til å både jobbe og få barn. Det er på tide å stille noen seriøse spørsmål ved signalene vi sender ut gjennom velferdssystemet.»

‘Yes, this is difficult territory. But at a time when so many people are struggling, isn’t it right that we ask whether those in the welfare system are faced with the same kinds of decisions that working people have to wrestle with when they have a child?’

But Mr Cameron will reject growing calls to raid universal pensioner benefits, such as free bus passes and TV licences and the winter fuel allowance, which remain popular with the middle class.

Other measures being considered include forcing the unemployed to work for free in exchange for benefits and removing Housing Benefit from under-25s, as the Prime Minister revealed in an interview with The Mail on Sunday.

The maximum amount of Housing Benefit a family can claim could also be slashed from the current limit of £25,000 a year. Downing Street sources say the Prime Minister will seek to advance this agenda through the Coalition, but the reality is that he will meet fierce resistance from the Lib Dems. Instead, the measures are likely to form the centrepiece of a Tory manifesto at the 2015 election.

De konservative vil også sette et tak på hvor mye en enkelt familie kan motta av sosialstønader og boligstøtte. Under det nåværende systemet kan en familie motta opptil 25.000 pund i året, hvilket er mer enn gjennomsnittslønnen for et hushold hvor begge foreldrene er i arbeid. Dagens velferdssystem har sendt ut noen utrolig ødeleggende signaler og skapt en kultur av kravmentalitet, uttaler Cameron:

‘We have created a welfare gap in this country – between those living long-term in the welfare system and those outside it. This has sent out some incredibly damaging signals. That it pays not to work. That you are owed something for nothing. It created a culture of entitlement.’

In 2010, Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt provoked a row when he suggested that the workshy should stop having children if they cannot afford them, saying the number of children is a ‘choice’.

Today Mr Cameron will point out that there are more than 150,000 people who have been claiming Income Support for over a year who have three or more children and 57,000 who have four or more.

It remains unclear, however, exactly what ministers would do to ensure a child did not suffer if he or she was the fourth or fifth born. One idea is to improve school meals and early years education to the point where the less well-off benefit hugely.
Model pioneered in the US

Mr Cameron will also cite the experience in America, where people are forced to work for benefits and do not get them indefinitely.

A No 10 source said such ‘time-limiting’ could potentially apply to many benefits. ‘David will say we should look at time limiting benefits. In America they say, “Sorry, you have it for two years and then you’re on your own”.’

In Wisconsin, when benefits claimants were told they would get no handouts after two years on the dole, the number of claims dropped by 57 per cent. When that state introduced ‘workfare’ schemes to ensure claimants did something useful for their benefits, claims dropped by 80 per cent.

Mr Cameron’s decision to float such controversial ideas is likely to lead to claims that he has abandoned the ‘compassionate Conservative’ mantra with which he won power. But he is keen to create clear blue water between the Tories and the Lib Dems as the Coalition enters the second half of the Parliament.

The Lib Dems said they would not support the plans but were content with Mr Cameron floating Tory ideas.

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said this morning the housing benefit payment system for under-25s would probably be restricted rather than eradicated altogether.

‘The details of these, of course, we have to be careful about. We have to be sensitive to the different reasons people have housing – people coming out of care, being in difficulties in foster care,’ he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

He added: ‘He’s (David Cameron) looking, quite rightly, at the balance between those families that work and try and do the right things against those families that aren’t necessarily working and have understood how to work the system.

‘We want to understand to what degree families realise they can get their children into social housing by getting them out of home.’

On the question of the number of children in jobless families he said: ‘I think it’s a genuine and reasonable question, and most people out there will want to ask it: It is this issue of fairness – taxpayers are working hard and thinking carefully about how many children they can have, and others who are not in work, do they do the same thing?’

Liam Byrne MP, Labour’s work and pensions spokesman, said: ‘This is a hazy and half-baked plan when we need a serious back-to-work programme for young families.’

Daily Mail: Benefit curb on bigger families: Payouts could stop at three children under PM’s welfare vision

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