Robert Spencer, mannen bak www.jihadwatch.org, er intervjuet av Frontpage.com i anledningen av sin nye bok.
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Spencer: Ayaan Hirsi Ali said it well to a Leftist interviewer in Canada a few weeks ago: «You grew up with freedom, and so you think you can spit on freedom.» They take it for granted, without realizing how severely it is imperilled. Would Leftists prefer to live in an Islamic society rather than in one that is or was Judeo-Christian? If they would, they will be, eventually, quite unpleasantly surprised: they will discover that many of the liberties they enjoyed were made possible by core assumptions of the Judeo-Christian civilization they helped to subvert, and that those liberties are not upheld under Islamic law.
FP: I disagree with you in the sense that I think that the Left realizes very well how severely imperilled our society is in the face of radical Islam. Just like in the days of communism, the Left venerates tyranny and yearns for submission under it. The Left knows exactly what it is doing when abetting and supporting an entity that it knows it itself will be consumed by. There is a logic to why leftist intellectuals support societies that butcher intellectuals, why leftist feminists support societies that mutilate women and why leftist homosexuals and minorities worship societies that barbarize homosexuals and minorities. It’s a death wish based on self-loathing. But perhaps this deeper discussion between us belongs in another forum.
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FP: What are Islam’s and Christianity’s disposition toward reason? What are the effects of these dispositions?
Spencer: Nietzsche once noted that «there is no such thing as science ‘without any presuppositions.’ A philosophy, a ‘faith,’ must always be there first, so that science can acquire from it a direction, a meaning, a limit, a method, a right to exist.» It may be jarring to those who believe that faith and reason are at odds, and that religions are all the same, but it is nevertheless a historical fact that modern science took its presuppositions from Christianity, and that Islam gave modern science no impetus at all.
The Qur’an explicitly refutes the Judeo-Christian view of God as a God of reason when it says: «The Jews say: Allah’s hand is fettered. Their hands are fettered and they are accursed for saying so.» (5:64) In other words, it is heresy to say that God operates by certain natural laws that we can understand through reason. This argument was played out throughout Islamic history. Muslim theologians argued during the long controversy with the Mu’tazilite sect, which exalted human reason, that Allah was not bound to govern the universe according to consistent and observable laws. «He cannot be questioned concerning what He does.» (Qur’an 21:23).
In contrast to the dogmatic stagnation of the Islamic world, science was able to flourish in Christian Europe during the same period because Christian scientists were working from assumptions derived from the Bible, which were very different from those of the Qur’an. The Bible assumes that God’s laws of creation are natural laws, a stable and unchanging reality-a sine qua non of scientific investigation. In the 13th century, St. Thomas Aquinas even went so far as to assert that «since the principles of certain sciences-of logic, geometry, and arithmetic, for instance-are derived exclusively from the formal principals of things, upon which their essence depends, it follows that God cannot make the contraries of these principles; He cannot make the genus not to be predictable of the species, nor lines drawn from a circle’s center to its circumference not to be equal, nor the three angles of a rectilinear triangle not to be equal to two right angles.» (Emphasis added)
Such ideas could never have taken root in the Islamic world. They would have been tantamount to saying that Allah’s hand was fettered.
Defending Our Own Civilization
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/29/2007